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Manorbier Community Council Meeting of 6th December 2007
Request for Information from former councillor Mrs Pat Griffiths.
A letter was received from RTL Solicitors acting on behalf of
former county councillor Pat Griffiths who had requested minutes
of a meeting held on 16th January 2006 for the purpose of her legal
inquiries into the allegation by Cllrs Wales and Neads that she had
lied to the court in the ICT Marketing case, committed perjury and
stabbed the Community Council in the back.
The solicitors for Mrs Griffiths had requested the minutes under the Freedom of
Information Act in July by e-mail. Cllr Calver asked why the
request had not been brought to the Community Council's
attention Cllr Neads stated that he 'had not received the e-mail'
even though he had just made reference to it. Cllr Calver
suggested that Cllr Neads had again failed in his role as proper
officer by his failure of bringing the issue to the attention of the
Community Council and that a duty exists for the information to be
forwarded to Mrs Griffiths following her request via her legal
representatives. Cllr Coleman was adamant that Mrs Griffiths
should be informed that if she wanted a copy of the minutes that
she should get them from the Post Office in the village, a
seemingly unusual statement from the Councillor with responsibility
for access to information under the Freedom of Information Act for
the Community Council.
Cllr Calver asked Cllr Neads when the
information would be provided to Mrs Griffiths bearing in mind
she intimated that she had been waiting since July for the
information. Cllr Neads' response was 'when he had time' and
suggested Cllr Calver should forward the information to Mrs
Griffiths. Cllr Calver responded by saying that there was no point
in Cllr Neads providing the information to him, and then for him to
forward the information to Mrs Griffiths when it was in Cllr
Neads' duty, responsibility and in his power to provide the information directly to Mrs Griffiths.
Website Comment
The allegation made by Cllr Wales and Neads against Mrs
Griffiths is extremely serious, it surely must follow that all
information that concerns the allegation should be provided to the
person so accused without delay. When this item has come up for
discussion at past meetings Cllr Wales has used his position as
chairman to curtail the discussion on the subject. In addition he
has stated that he would not call any special meeting to discuss the
issue or attend any meeting if it was called to consider her
complaint.
Employment Tribunal Case
Information has finally been forthcoming in relation to the
employment tribunal case concerning the former clerk. This ends
the formal shroud of secrecy that has enveloped the case for the
past two years. Councillors were informed that the case against the
Community Council had been rescheduled from 19th 20th and 21st
November 2007 to a three day hearing to be held in Cardiff on the 21st, 22nd
and 23rd April 2008. This is the first time that councillors have
been officially informed of a hearing date by either the chairman or
proper officer. When asked by a local resident in the open session
of the details of the location, time and date of the staffing
committee meetings, Cllr Wales stated that he did not know and
when questioned further stated he would find out. This is a concern
as no individual councillor can take on such a delegation of
information gathering it must be referred back to full council.
This case, which is likely to have financial repercussions on the
council and its charge payers, is seemingly following the same pattern
as the ITC Marketing case where councillors were not kept fully
informed by Cllrs Wales and Neads, a very grave concern as that case
cost the Community Council over £20,000.00.
To date a notification has not been placed in the community or
forwarded to councillors regarding any staffing committee meeting
for over 18 months; no contact has been reported to council over
any involvement of ACAS which could have resolved the issue.
Considering the origins of the political party to which Cllr Wales is
affiliated the lack of any suggestion on his part to have any direct
involvement by ACAS is surprising.
During the ICT marketing case the retained solicitors, Lowless and Lowless, advised
the Community Council to settle out of court. One wonders if
similar advice has also been given to Cllrs Wales, Neads and
Coleman in respect of the forthcoming case prior to the
solicitors dismissal on the advice of the staffing committee.
Cancelled Bank Standing Order
Cllr Neads reported that an anonymous person had contacted
Barclays Bank and succeeded in stopping the standing order that
was in place to make payments to the YHA for the use of the
Skrinkle Centre. Cllr Wales had advised the council at a previous
meeting that the YHA had sent back the money they were due for
the rent of the Skrinkle centre. Cllr Calver queried the
contradiction in these statements and asked Cllr Neads if he had
sought information from the bank as to the identity of the
individual. Cllr Neads informed him that Barclays Bank had failed
to provide him with the identity of the person concerned to which Cllr
Calver replied that surely a record of the person's identity would
have to be provided to Barclays Bank before they would carry out
the instruction. If a standing order with Barclays Bank could be
stopped without identification it was worrying because potentially
it could allow someone to increase the standing order without
identification.
Cllr Wales and Neads forward allegations regarding Funds stolen
from the Community Council to Police
Manorbier Community Council is set for controversy again as
Cllrs Wales and Neads reported to the meeting that they had contacted
the local police regarding irregularities in the Community Council
finances. Cllr Neads informed councillors that there had been a
conspiracy and that funds had been stolen from Manorbier
Community Council in 2003 and he had contacted the
police. Cllr Calver asked Cllr Neads whether any details were
available and was told by Cllr Neads that he would not give any
details to fellow councillors as the police investigations are
continuing.
Website Comment
It seems that Cllr Wales and Neads act in the name of the entire
council making accusations on the council's behalf without
providing their fellow councillors with any information as to the
substance of these allegations. Surely the inability of Councillors
to question the evidence that Cllrs Neads and Wales have given to
the police should be very important.
The responsible attitude of councillors, one would suggest, would
be to question Cllrs Wales and Neads firstly as to the accuracy of
their statements and their actions in reporting the matter to the police
and a full disclosure to the Community Council over their findings.
The Council makes only corporate decisions and clearly this action by Cllr Neads could not be described as such.
Appointment of A New Clerk
An invoice was received from the Tenby Observer for the advert
placed by Cllr Wales for the position of Clerk to the Manorbier Community Council. Cllr Calver
questioned why Cllr Wales had worded the advert in contravention
of the Community Council's decision to advertise for a temporary
clerk by the express wording that the position was temporary. Cllr
Wales indicated that he had made a mistake. Cllr Calver stated he
felt that Cllr Wales' action had left the Community Council in a
position that any applicant who applied for the position would be
under the misapprehension that the position was permanent. The
existing clerk is at present seeking redress from the Community
Council for unfair dismissal through the employment tribunal and
if the court rules in her favour it could be seen as an attempt by the
council to undermine her right for reinstatement and have further
financial repercussions for the Community Council. Whilst
accepting there was a need for a temporary clerk to carry out
certain duties as, despite Cllr Neads volunteering to take on the
responsibilities of the role they had not been fulfilled, Cllr Neads
had failed many times to carry out basic instructions given to him
by the council with the excuse that he did not have time, this
unfortunate situation has continued for almost two years.
Cllr Wales informed the Community Council that he had received three
applications for the post and when asked by Cllr Calver if any
applicants had been contacted by Cllr Wales an indication was
given that they had not. Cllr Neads was asked the same question
by Cllr Calver and he admitted that he had bumped into one of the
applicants. How this was possible without Cllr Neads knowing the
person he bumped into was an applicant is concerning. In the
interest for parity for all applicants and other councillors if this
information is available to one particular councillor it should be
available to all.
The fact that Cllr Neads and the relevant applicant
know each other is of concern and perhaps Cllr Neads should
declare an interest on the issue detailing how he knows the
applicant, the circumstance of the meeting and how the issue of his
knowledge of the person being an applicant came to pass.
Star Association
Mr Cochrane wrote to the Community Council in respect of
several issues, one of which was a complaint over the state of the
roads and the pavements around the estate. In his letter Mr
Cochrane indicated that he had complained to Pembrokeshire
County Council (PCC) about the issue on an annual basis. Cllr
Calver asked that Mr Cochrane provide him with copies of letters
or otherwise of details how the complaint had been made to PCC.
Mr Cochrane also queried the bus service through the village in
respect of the point that large buses seem to use the route down
Pembroke Road and the small buses had stopped using it. Cllr
Calver informed the council that he had asked PCC several months
ago to raise the issue of contacting First Direct, who operate the
smaller buses, to change back to the old route. He further
explained that First Direct, which is a private company, had
decided to withdraw from part of the route on highway safety
grounds. PCC have no authority to force the company to revert
back to the old route which some bigger buses still use.
First Direct do not receive finance from PCC and therefore PCC has no control
over the route used by them.
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